In Episode 5 of Kinda Different, we share time with Zachary Brian, DMD, MHA. We talk about his re-shaping of oral health policy in North Carolina, rooting ourselves in empathy, how the patient can be included in the care team (and being more inclusive of patients in innovation in general), and how dental education can start to teach students about patient experience.

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